And if someone still has doubt on who russians are (in majority at least) just take a look on the upvotes these propaganda and insult spreading russian bots are receiving. There should be no doubt anymore.
And if someone still has doubt on who russians are (in majority at least) just take a look on the upvotes these propaganda and insult spreading russian bots are receiving. There should be no doubt anymore.
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А в 1939 году Сталин хуже Гитлера был, получается? Вам, финнам, лучше было при власти Гитлера жить, да?
А в 1939 году Сталин хуже Гитлера был, получается? Вам, финнам, лучше было при власти Гитлера жить, да?
@WobblyDemon said in #30:
You should know that this discussion started from a (now removed) comment by a russian Nikita-Molod where he used a derogatory well-known russian word for Ukraine in response to Ukrainian success in the championships. This is of course very typical russian behaviour. On the one hand it's unfortunate but on the other hand, it's not a bad thing that people learn who russians really are. We have to start to recognize and acknowledge their brutishness, their lack of respect, their undignified imperialistic mindset with their superiority complex.
А тебе, чухонцу, не всё равно, как я какую страну по-русски называю? Не по-английски, не по-фински, а по-русски. И ты название нашей страны Россия пишешь исключительно с маленькой буквы, а Украину - исключительно с заглавной. Это ли не проявление неуважения? Приезжай ко мне, поговорим
@WobblyDemon said in #30:
> You should know that this discussion started from a (now removed) comment by a russian Nikita-Molod where he used a derogatory well-known russian word for Ukraine in response to Ukrainian success in the championships. This is of course very typical russian behaviour. On the one hand it's unfortunate but on the other hand, it's not a bad thing that people learn who russians really are. We have to start to recognize and acknowledge their brutishness, their lack of respect, their undignified imperialistic mindset with their superiority complex.
А тебе, чухонцу, не всё равно, как я какую страну по-русски называю? Не по-английски, не по-фински, а по-русски. И ты название нашей страны Россия пишешь исключительно с маленькой буквы, а Украину - исключительно с заглавной. Это ли не проявление неуважения? Приезжай ко мне, поговорим
Россия сражается одна, может, с небольшой помощью КНДР; а Украине помогает весь мир, всё НАТО, но они ничего не могут сделать, кроме беспилотников своих. И кто сильнее, кто победит? Прошу задуматься всех тех, кто поддерживает действия комика-президента (плюс почему он не провёл у себя в стране выборы, никакой помехи для этого не было?)
Россия сражается одна, может, с небольшой помощью КНДР; а Украине помогает весь мир, всё НАТО, но они ничего не могут сделать, кроме беспилотников своих. И кто сильнее, кто победит? Прошу задуматься всех тех, кто поддерживает действия комика-президента (плюс почему он не провёл у себя в стране выборы, никакой помехи для этого не было?)
@WobblyDemon said in #7:
What I'm witnessing is a successful result of russian propaganda. It's very useful to the criminal leadership of russia to portray russian people as victims. And actually russians really like to play victims themselves (cf. russophobia) "Oh, I'm not interested in politics. Oh, I'm truly for peace and only for peace! Oh, we have done nothing wrong, just following the orders!" The result is that no-one cares to put any pressure on them, thinking naively that it's just putin, that russians do not share his ideology, and consequently it's a little bit easier to let the mass murder of Ukrainians continue. No, it's not just putin. It's a genocidal war of russian people against Ukrainians. Unfortunately it is. I'd really like to witness a completely different kind of reality. But that kind of reality does not exist. And I do not want to lie to myself. Hopefully you do not want either.
Russian propaganda? Whole of western media is western propaganda. Russia population is 143 million and economy is smaller than Italy. Your propaganda says we are both weak and strong. It is clear who the fascists are. We are fighting them not for the first time. If you are so brave, go to Ukraine and fight.
@WobblyDemon said in #7:
> What I'm witnessing is a successful result of russian propaganda. It's very useful to the criminal leadership of russia to portray russian people as victims. And actually russians really like to play victims themselves (cf. russophobia) "Oh, I'm not interested in politics. Oh, I'm truly for peace and only for peace! Oh, we have done nothing wrong, just following the orders!" The result is that no-one cares to put any pressure on them, thinking naively that it's just putin, that russians do not share his ideology, and consequently it's a little bit easier to let the mass murder of Ukrainians continue. No, it's not just putin. It's a genocidal war of russian people against Ukrainians. Unfortunately it is. I'd really like to witness a completely different kind of reality. But that kind of reality does not exist. And I do not want to lie to myself. Hopefully you do not want either.
Russian propaganda? Whole of western media is western propaganda. Russia population is 143 million and economy is smaller than Italy. Your propaganda says we are both weak and strong. It is clear who the fascists are. We are fighting them not for the first time. If you are so brave, go to Ukraine and fight.
@WobblyDemon said in #30:
You should know that this discussion started from a (now removed) comment by a russian Nikita-Molod where he used a derogatory well-known russian word for Ukraine in response to Ukrainian success in the championships. This is of course very typical russian behaviour. On the one hand it's unfortunate but on the other hand, it's not a bad thing that people learn who russians really are. We have to start to recognize and acknowledge their brutishness, their lack of respect, their undignified imperialistic mindset with their superiority complex.
Russia is not the enemy. Putin requested to join NATO but US denied. Why? We do not know. Then NATO approaches our border. We have no choice but to stop it from reaching Ukraine. We do not need Ukraine's land. Just to cause enough problems to stop them joining NATO.
@WobblyDemon said in #30:
> You should know that this discussion started from a (now removed) comment by a russian Nikita-Molod where he used a derogatory well-known russian word for Ukraine in response to Ukrainian success in the championships. This is of course very typical russian behaviour. On the one hand it's unfortunate but on the other hand, it's not a bad thing that people learn who russians really are. We have to start to recognize and acknowledge their brutishness, their lack of respect, their undignified imperialistic mindset with their superiority complex.
Russia is not the enemy. Putin requested to join NATO but US denied. Why? We do not know. Then NATO approaches our border. We have no choice but to stop it from reaching Ukraine. We do not need Ukraine's land. Just to cause enough problems to stop them joining NATO.
This war is what western countries wanted to happen.
And they reached thier goal.
(as they reached USSR fall earlier).
Can you imagine enemy country appearance near USA ?
Russian bases in Mexico or Canada ?
But you created enemy UA near Russia, armed it, ignored all Russia's requests (2021 and earlier) and ...
Wow. Russia decided to disarm UA and not to allow it to be in NATO (friendly NATO).
Listen to Putin's speech in Munich 2007.
Try to understand.
Also re-read about Caribean crisis (rockets in Turkey).
Learn more about nazi movements in UA (before WW2, during WW2. and now).
Learn more about what happened with russian language, books, schools, monuments, war veterans, church since 1991.
Especially 2014 and later.
Learn more about NATO bases built in UA. NATO advisers came in UA.
No... you dont want to know anything...
Why... its much easier to see agressive russian bear, and not to see real world situation
So go on and continue claiming us.
This war is what western countries wanted to happen.
And they reached thier goal.
(as they reached USSR fall earlier).
Can you imagine enemy country appearance near USA ?
Russian bases in Mexico or Canada ?
But you created enemy UA near Russia, armed it, ignored all Russia's requests (2021 and earlier) and ...
Wow. Russia decided to disarm UA and not to allow it to be in NATO (friendly NATO).
Listen to Putin's speech in Munich 2007.
Try to understand.
Also re-read about Caribean crisis (rockets in Turkey).
Learn more about nazi movements in UA (before WW2, during WW2. and now).
Learn more about what happened with russian language, books, schools, monuments, war veterans, church since 1991.
Especially 2014 and later.
Learn more about NATO bases built in UA. NATO advisers came in UA.
No... you dont want to know anything...
Why... its much easier to see agressive russian bear, and not to see real world situation
So go on and continue claiming us.
Chess and politics should not be mixed.
This altercation should be locked.
Chess and politics should not be mixed.
This altercation should be locked.
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